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It's two, two, two stories in one:

 

http://www.mercurynews.com/columns/ci_9445045

 

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Quid pro coaster? Consider this scenario and see if you can tell whom IA is talking about:

 

1) Longtime Santa Clara tenant approaches city with a construction project. 2) Neighbor of longtime tenant raises objections to project, saying it will cause undue harm. 3) City encourages longtime tenant and tenant's neighbor to work it out. 4) Talks start - and an alternative site for the project is proposed - but they eventually hit a snag.

 

Sound familiar? If you guessed one of those parties is Cedar Fair, Great America's Ohio-based owner, kudos. But you probably didn't guess the other (hint: It ain't the San Francisco 49ers).

 

No, in this case, Cedar Fair is the tenant looking to push through a project - a 111-foot tall wooden roller coaster that needed a zoning variance - and Prudential Real Estate is the neighbor crying foul.

 

Tim Tosta, one of the lawyers working for Prudential, noticed the eerie similarities to Cedar Fair's ongoing contretemps with the 49ers, who want to build a stadium next to the theme park.

 

"I find a peculiar irony in their adamance about this project and their reluctance about the 49ers," he said.

 

But there may be a more direct link between the two debates. Last week, Santa Clara's planning commission voted 5-1 for the height exemption (35 feet is usually the maximum). They said Prudential's concerns about noise were unfounded. Adding a new attraction boosts the overall value of the park, and that's been something of a hot topic in recent months. Cedar Fair and the 49ers have been discussing a sale of the park as one way to move the $916 million stadium project forward.

 

And given the looming stadium issues, some have questioned the city's decision to green-light the exemption for the coaster. Is this a chit the city might have used to nudge Cedar Fair along on the stadium deal?...

And in answer to that question last quoted...if the city had used that chit, a lawsuit might have been the result...do the words arbitrary and capricious come to mind?

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I'm confused as to why the Prudential people would be mad about a coaster... It seems to me that a football stadium would be much bigger, draw a larger crowd, and result in more noise than a new coaster.

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I say buy the real estate, and bulloze. :P That way no one will have to worry about their cries. :P Just kidding.

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Economy slows 49ers' stadium plans; could it lead to talks with Raiders?:

 

Given the disruption of the bond markets and the 49ers' continuing impasse with the Ohio company {Cedar Fair} that controls the land where the 68,000-seat stadium would be built, the team's plan to begin construction next year for a 2012 opening is almost certainly defunct, sources said. Santa Clara Mayor Patricia Mahan said the recession could force Santa Clara to pare back its financial investment of up to $136 million in redevelopment money in the project....

 

Also looming is a stalemate between the 49ers and Cedar Fair Entertainment, the Ohio amusement park company that owns Great America. Over the past six months, "there's been no progress in that area," Lang said.

 

A Cedar Fair spokeswoman, Stacy Frole, said the company is still willing to sell its interest in Great America to the 49ers, clearing a path to build the stadium on Great America's main parking lot, but she agreed there has been no significant progress.

 

"It's the same situation," she said....

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_11419367

 

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So basically cedar fair wants to expand the park and continue to run it. But the 49'ers want to build over their entire parking lot for a new stadium. So then I'm guessing they would have to either share a parking lot or cedar fair is going to have to find a new place for a parking lot. Here is a picture of the area from google maps and i labeled what i assume is the main parking lot.

 

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Stadiums next to theme parks... I don't like! Astro World was by the Astro Dome, Elitch Gardens is by Two Stadiums and look at it! I think even SFKK isn't too far from one! Maybe it's a curse for theme parks to be by Stadiums?

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And just who might "they" be? Cedar Fair will want compensated for any loss to their property rights (lease) caused by a stadium. If the City of Santa Clara were to build a parking garage for the park, where would the money come from? Surely you don't really believe the football team would pay for this? Or the taxpayers?

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49ers deny Raiders will share their stadium:

 

"....The 49ers still have to persuade Cedar Fair, the company that owns Great America, to support the project. The company has said it wants financial concessions in exchange for its support, including unilateral control over stadium scheduling during Great America's season and parking revenue from the stadium.

 

"We have not made much progress with Cedar Fair," Lang said Saturday. "We will continue to have discussions with them ... but it remains a hurdle."...

 

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?.../BACL1579LS.DTL

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49's, Santa Clara Deal Finally On The Horizon:

 

...Politically, waiting until 2010 might also be more advantageous for the 49ers, allowing time for an economic recovery to take hold.

 

It also would allow time for a deal between the 49ers and Cedar Fair to jell — perhaps the team would buy the theme park. Sandusky, Ohio-based Cedar Fair recently announced that it is eager to sell properties across North America to cut its corporate debt. A Cedar Fair spokeswoman did not return telephone calls Wednesday....

 

http://www.mercurynews.com/49ersheadlines/ci_12050212

 

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And an attempt to detour around Cedar Fair's lawsuit:

 

...Santa Clarans for Economic Progress, the Astroturf group funded by the 49ers that was behind last month's pro-stadium mailing, announced that it would start gathering petition signatures to get its own initative on the June ballot. A petition-backed initiative would have the advantage of not being subject to environmental review rules — meaning it could give the 49ers an end run around the Cedar Fair lawsuit. No word just yet on what happens if both measures make the ballot, and one wins and one loses....

 

http://www.fieldofschemes.com/news/archive...lara_49e_3.html

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