firehawkboy 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2008 And I know its a retarded one to ask but... Will our B&M be the tallest and fastest one ever built?? I really really hope so, because KI is known for record breakers, so it would make sense if it was the tallest and fastest B&M. Help?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Interpreter 2 Report post Posted May 31, 2008 IF it is a B and M coaster that is being built, it is highly unlikely that it will be the tallest or fastest. The tallest B and M is Millennium Force at Cedar Point at 310 feet...the fastest is also Millennium Force at 93 mph. From a cost standpoint alone, given the current price of steel and Cedar Fair's financial condition, I cannot imagine Cedar Fair building a the tallest or fastest B and M coaster at Kings Island, or even anywhere else right now.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fire-Beast-OF FEAR 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2008 Melinium Force is a Intamin AG. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RollerNut 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2008 IF it is a B and M coaster that is being built, it is highly unlikely that it will be the tallest or fastest. The tallest B and M is Millennium Force at Cedar Point at 310 feet...the fastest is also Millennium Force at 93 mph. From a cost standpoint alone, given the current price of steel and Cedar Fair's financial condition, I cannot imagine Cedar Fair building a the tallest or fastest B and M coaster at Kings Island, or even anywhere else right now.... Millennium Force is Intamin AG. Silver Star at Europa Park is the tallest B&M coaster weighing in at 239 feet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Interpreter 2 Report post Posted May 31, 2008 Indeed it is! Saturday morning brain spasm! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoastersRZ 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2008 Wow, Interpreter. That was a rather major error! Not completely awake yet when you made that post? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Interpreter 2 Report post Posted May 31, 2008 I even knew better shortly afterwards, came back to correct, but it was there! And yes, I was awake, just not functioning! :) None of us is perfect, certainly not me! :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diamondback Dude 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2008 (edited) And I know its a retarded one to ask but... Will our B&M be the tallest and fastest one ever built?? I really really hope so, because KI is known for record breakers, so it would make sense if it was the tallest and fastest B&M. Help?? well rumor does state that it will be 225 ft :insane: but i'm sure Behemoth is 230 Edited May 31, 2008 by Firehawk Fanatic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rageofturtles 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2008 as long as its over 200 im happy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diamondback Dude 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2008 as long as its over 200 im happy i couldn't agree more with you. I dont why parks waste there money on those strata coasters that are only a 25 second ride. I think that the voyage at holiday world is twice the ride top thrill dragster is and it cost like 6,000,000 instead of 25,000,000 million like top thrill dragster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DiSab 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2008 (edited) I have heard rumors that while the overall height may not be the tallest, it may have the longest drop of a B&M coaster. The ride may make use of the natural valleys back in the area behinf The Crypt, which I hear are rather deep. Building into the valleys would keep cost down since the supports wouldn't be all that tall, yet allow the ride to have a longer drop that it is high (a la Beast). For the record, can anyone confirm just how deep some of these canyons are, and could the ride potentially dip into them a good distance? Edited June 1, 2008 by DiSab Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dare-to-fly 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2008 Providing there are no extra really high drops, does anyone care to place any bets now on how many trim brakes will be installed. My current prediction is three, and at least one that is a ride-killing one. Reasons for my prediction...see Beast, Racer, Flight of Fear, Son of Beast, Beastie, and Vortex. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Interpreter 2 Report post Posted June 1, 2008 There is a new owner in town since those other coasters have been installed. Perhaps more instructive would be looking at Behemoth, Mean Streak, Mantis, Thunderhawk at Dorney, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
calakapepe 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2008 as long as its over 200 im happy well then it wouldn't be a hyper would it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rageofturtles 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2008 as long as its over 200 im happy well then it wouldn't be a hyper would it? What im saying is 200 up 250 down, Catch my drift? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TombraiderTy 1 Report post Posted June 1, 2008 The valleys are pretty deep: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rageofturtles 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2008 The valleys are pretty deep: i saw that by the train tracks and tomb raider looks pretty deep Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Steve Brule 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2008 (edited) Providing there are no extra really high drops, does anyone care to place any bets now on how many trim brakes will be installed. My current prediction is three, and at least one that is a ride-killing one. Reasons for my prediction...see Beast, Racer, Flight of Fear, Son of Beast, Beastie, and Vortex. I'm willing to bet one, just one, excluding a mid course brake run. By the way, aside from their mid course brake runs; Vortex, Beastie, and Flight of Fear do not have trim brakes. Son of Beast has a trim brake installed at the top of the 70 degree banking before the trains enter the double helix but it has never been used. Edited June 1, 2008 by Dr. Steve Brule Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sheikra_rocks 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2008 Speaking of trim brakes... What the heck was cedar point thinking when they installed FRICTION brakes on the Mean Streak drop instead of magnetic brakes like on the beast? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Steve Brule 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2008 ^I agree, seems like a weird decision. Same with Mean Streak... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DiSab 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2008 They used friction brakes because the trims were installed back in '92, a year after MS was built. I don't think magnetic brakes were readily used back then. Also, the magnetic trims on the Beast were put in within the past few years, and were also installed when the 'Mount still ran the show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roham002 0 Report post Posted June 17, 2008 They used friction brakes because the trims were installed back in '92, a year after MS was built. I don't think magnetic brakes were readily used back then. Also, the magnetic trims on the Beast were put in within the past few years, and were also installed when the 'Mount still ran the show.I agree..it is HIGHLY unlikely to find magnetic trims placed on a ride before 1990. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
